Take-two Tuesday — Daily Batman: Advice, The Dark Knight edition

This post originally appeared on November 28, 2009 at 3:07PM.

This picture from The Dark Knight brings up two pieces of advice.

First, it is very important that you look at the Joker when he talks to you. Do not forget.

Second, you must accept that sometimes a thing is a foregone conclusion. Friend, he is wearing an apron fashioned of a garbage bag. There is no scenario in which this ends well for you.

Questions for discussion:

  • This scene is one of two in which the Joker gives a very detailed origin story about his scars. He is not asked about his scars by the people to whom he tells the stories, and the stories do not match. Why do you think this is?

  • Why do you think is it so important to the Joker that people look at him when he speaks to them?
  • Would you feel nervous if you had to talk to the Joker? (Suppose in this case he were not wearing a garbage bag and rather was just in his de rigeur violet and puce duds.) Why or why not?
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    2 Responses to “Take-two Tuesday — Daily Batman: Advice, The Dark Knight edition”

    1. milo McMiloson Says:

      1. we know the joker is very calculating.I would also argue NOT crazy, I think he changes the story to fit the moment. It plays into the persona he has created for himself!
      2. I would guess it has to do with his childhood, maybe an overbearing parent who dropped the line “you will look at me when I’m talking to you”. It creates a position of power. If you can stop someone from looking at their shoes while you scare the living crap outta them, it forces them to face what is coming head on. there will be no closing your eyes and kissing your ass goodbye when the joker decides to end your life!
      3.If you take your question as written, No I would not worry about talking to him. I don’t fear crazy,guns,or knives. I get scared when all those things are mixed together and pushed into my head! so if I was just talking to him and he was pimped out 60’s joker style… not a problem. wearing a trash bag with a knife in my mouth telling me how “he worked construction, and the foreman took a circular saw to his face because he would not look him in the eye” yeah that would bug me a bit.

      and lastly, having nothing to do with your post, I watched Iron Man yesterday and it got me thinking about the alternate universe where super heroes are real. I know this will not be popular with you. If that universe were real don’t you kinda think batman would be completely unnecessary? Iron Man seems to have zero moral problem with killing, Superman really cant be hurt. don’t you think in that world, not a single government, town, or neighborhood watch program would wanna wait for Batman to fight his way through the bad guys when Iron man would just fly in, use one of his super accurate little missile things, kill the bad guys and move on??? unless there is some kind of turf war in that universe where dudes are forced to stay in their own geographic area?? and if that is true are you not pissed that you pulled the short straw and got Aquaman?? “Awesome, we live in Kansas and drew Aquaman..fuck were screwed!”

      Ok that is my geek quota for the day!

      love love love

    2. Jeff Says:

      Love your ‘blog, so thanks a mill. Geeking out, big time:
      1. Among the craziness, The Joker sets up a magnificent “rule of comic threes” with his attempts to tell his origin story. Three repetitions, with a twist in the third, are components of a classic comic structure. The first shows us what happens to someone who hears his joke – gruesome death. The second contains a suspension – Rachel doesn’t die until later in the film. The wry twist of the third is the tables being turned on Joker at the moment of his (supposed) intended coup de grace on Bats. (I don’t believe he ever intends to kill Batman.) In short, it’s an elaborate running gag, made out of three smaller jokes.
      2. In this film in particular, The Joker is representative of subcultures of every stripe, the things we would not see. He’s also a (badly damaged, self-inflicted or otherwise) three-clown, or anarchic child. “Hey! Look at what I can do!”
      3. I would never ever EVER talk to The Joker in any of the forms in which I’ve seen him portrayed. Too dangerously unpredictable and intelligent. Which is a pity, because in a real-life context that’s probably what the guy would most need to be happy. Then again, maybe he is happy…

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